鍵盤俠|末節棄用 威少已是角色球員球迷：底薪了還要黑？

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[Post Game Thread] Los Angeles Clippers defeat New York Knicks 106-95

[賽后貼] 洛杉磯快船隊106-95戰勝紐約尼克斯隊

雙方數據：

快船（36-33）：萊昂納德38分4籃板2助攻，喬治22分8籃板8助攻，莫里斯11分5籃板，威少7分5籃板3助攻，戈登10分2籃板3助攻，祖巴茨8分6籃板，普拉姆利6分4籃板2帽，曼恩2分3助攻，巴圖姆2分4籃板

尼克斯（39-30）：奎克利26分10籃板4助攻，蘭德爾19分8籃板3助攻，巴雷特11分2籃板，羅賓遜6分14籃板2帽，格萊姆斯7分4助攻，哈特10分8籃板4助攻，哈滕施泰因4分5籃板3助攻，托平10分5籃板

[–]NBAEarthWarping 13 指標 1小時前

Pretty standard great Kawhi game.

The Randle tech/foul at the end of the 3rd quarter changed the swing.

Interesting that Russ played a ton early, but Mann closed out the game. Wonder if that"s something the Clippers will use going forward.

球迷：

這是一場標準的小卡接管式比賽，蘭德爾在第三節末的技犯改變了比賽勢頭。而有趣的一點是，雖然威少在前三節打了很久，但是整個第四節快船卻完全用曼恩來終結比賽，不知道他們以后是不是會繼續這么玩。

[–]LakersTenseiGate 1 指標 1小時前

It’d be nice for all of us to see Kawhi in the playoffs fully healthy the whole way. Dude is a certified killer.

湖人球迷：如果小卡能在季后賽完全保持健康，那將是全體球迷的福音~這小子簡直是殺手再就業啊~

[–]ClippersJimmyV034 15 指標 1小時前

No Russ mins in 4th Q is doing wonders for us

快船球迷：沒有威少的第四節，是充滿奇跡的第四節~

[–][IND] Paul Georgewatdapau 9 指標 1小時前

Nah. 213 is just on fire this game

步行者喬治球迷：非也~只不過今天小卡和泡椒爆發了而已~

[–]ClippersJimmyV034 4 指標 1小時前

I mean thats true but also spacing looked great for them in 4th Q to do their thing. When Russ is playing teams are sagging off him

快船球迷：你說的也對~但是對卡椒來說，他們在第四節獲得的場上空間確實棒極了~而當威少在場時，對手根本不鳥他。

[–]ClippersJimmyV034 -2 指標 1小時前

Personally im not a big fan of that Russ-PG-Kawhi mins together, 109 offensive rating before that game isnt good considering that both PG and Kawhi had great offensive rating when they play together.

快船球迷：我個人不是很喜歡威少和卡椒同時在場，他們三人同場時109的進攻效率并不出色，考慮到僅卡椒二人同場時，快船的進攻效率是非常牛逼的~

[–]LakersSw3atyGoalz 2 指標 1小時前

He’s only lost 1 game this season when he sat the fourth lol

E: Yea 7-1 in games with 23 minutes or less, jumps to 8-5 when he plays 25 minutes or less

湖人球迷：我來分享個數據，本賽季當威少第四節不上場時，他所在球隊僅輸了一場比賽。

補充：威少出戰少于23分鐘時，球隊戰績7勝1負；但當他的出戰時間調整為少于25分鐘時，球隊戰績立刻下滑到8勝5負了~

[–]ClippersShukiNathan 26 指標 2小時前

Randle had 2 more fgm than russ on 3 times the attempts lmao

快船球迷：我也來分享個數據，蘭德爾的出手數（24次）是威少（8次）的三倍，但是命中數（5個）之比威少（3個）多2個，笑死我了~

[–]NuggetsStoopidDingus69 1 指標 1小時前

Is Julius randle even good? He’s 7th in mvp I’ve never been that impressed by him. Does he deserve that ranking?

掘金球迷：那蘭德爾到底算不算打得好啊~雖然他MVP排第7，我怎么一點也感受不到他的存在感啊~他到底配不配上他的排名啊？

[–]ClippersThuduke -4 指標 1小時前

No handle randle vs westbrick. Match of the century

快船球迷：樓上的，這么跟你說吧，手殘黨蘭德爾 VS 打鐵匠威少，可稱得上《你比我爛乎？》舞臺上的世紀對決了~

[–][NBA] Best of 2021 Winnerurfaselol[S] 185 指標 1小時前

Russell Westbrook despite being bad did what the team needs him to do and be an innings eater. Playmaking and did a lot of duties that Pg and Kawhi would normally do for the full game. PG and Kawhi is a lot fresher at the end of games and can take over like they did today. Before the trade deadline they’d be gassed in the fourth

球迷：雖然打得差，但是威少至少做了球隊需要他做的事，他負責組織，并為卡椒分擔了很多工作。因此，就像今天這樣，卡椒才有更多的體能去打末節，本來在交易日之前，他們倆經常在末節就精疲力盡了~

[–]Lakerslovo17 31 指標 1小時前

He should be coming off the bench too. Mann and Westbrook should be switching spots in the rotation.

湖人球迷：其實威少應該打替補的，曼恩和威少在場上的角色應該換過來~

[–]San Diego Clippersnick-thestripper 64 指標 1小時前

Westbrook"s doing fine as a starter. He gets the game off on a nice pace

快船球迷：威少打首發還OK啦~他能讓快船以一個不錯的節奏進入比賽呢~

[–]Clipperslsalomx -2 指標 1小時前

Well sort of except he’s the only guy consistently making lineups with 213 into slight +- negatives

快船球迷：但素，威少貌似是唯一一個和卡椒同場時，正負值有點負的球員誒~

[–]ClippersMVPG2022 24 指標 1小時前

He"s has a very positive net rating when sharing the court with just one of them. It"s small sample noise that the trio is underperforming.

快船球迷：當威少和卡椒其中一人同場時，他的效率值是很好的。說三巨頭同場表現不好的聲音其實不多~

[–]ClippersCogito3 6 指標 1小時前

i don"t think it"s entirely small sample size noise. when he"s playing with both of them he often stands in the corner while one of them does his thing, which is a total waste of his skillset. Russ with just one of 213 plus bench guys gets to do a lot more ballhandling.

快船球迷：我不覺得說三巨頭同場效果不好的聲音少，當威少和卡椒同場時，他經常就呆在某個角落，看卡椒他們自己玩，這樣直接把他的能力給浪費了~當威少和卡椒其中一人以及其他角色球員同場時，他控球的時間就很長。

[–]Lakersclaydavisismyhero 4 指標 40 分鐘前

It’s easier to bench him in the 4th that way. Mann would he playing 24 straight minutes in the 2nd half

湖人球迷：像今天這樣，第四節把威少放在板凳上，更加直接和還簡單了。讓曼恩直接打滿下半場24分鐘吧。

[–]Raptors2789334 2 指標 1小時前

I remember u doubted the fit too I told y’all it would work

猛龍球迷：我記得之前我說過（第四節讓威少坐板凳）是很有效果的，你們還不信~

[–]Patrick BeverleyKiryuXGoro -14 指標 1 小時前

This is fucking stupid. If he can"t play the 4th then he shouldn"t be playing at all let alone starting.

貝弗利球迷：傻逼了吧~如果威少打不了第四節，那干脆別讓他打了，也別讓他首發啊！

[–]Raptors2789334 12 指標 1 小時前

Lol what? 99% of bench players don’t play heavy minutes in the 4th, should they all be cut from their rosters?

Do you understand the concept of a role player?

猛龍球迷：哈哈哈，啥？99%的替補球員都沒法在第四節獲得大量的上場時間，難道都把他們從陣容中移走嗎？你明不明白角色球員的定義？

[–]Patrick BeverleyKiryuXGoro -4 指標 48 分前

Why is Westbrick starting then? He"s clearly not a role player.

貝弗利球迷：那威鐵為什么能首發呢？很顯然他不是角色球員啊~

[–]Raptors2789334 7 指標 45 分前

He is a role player lol “starter” and “bench player” are just terms that don’t have anything to do with how you play on the basketball court.

If he’s not playing substantial minutes, why does it matter where he is at tip off

猛龍球迷：哈哈威少就是角色球員。不管是“首發”還是“替補”，這和你在場上做什么事兒沒有任何關系。如果威少得不到大量的上場時間，那和他是什么時候上場的又有什么關系呢？

[–]KingJTt -12 指標 1 小時前

If you have to bench a player the entire fourth to win games he isn’t a good player

球迷：如果你只能通過讓某個球員整個四節坐板凳才能贏球，那么那個球員就不屬于好球員的范疇。

[–]Handsome_Kian 16 指標 1 小時前

you guys are really desperate to shit on the guy aren"t you? he"s on a vet minimum contract.

球迷：你們這些家伙就只能靠黑威少而活著了是嗎？他都已經是老將底薪了，還想怎么樣？

[–]KingJTt -15 指標 1 小時前

Who’s shitting on him? He isn’t good. That’s the facts, numbers and the eye test can attribute to that.

球迷：誰黑他了？他確實打得不好了，這是事實，數據能證明，大家也都看在眼里的。

[–]Clipperslsalomx 1 指標 1 小時前

he’s definitely bad

快船球迷：威少確實打得爛了~

[–]KingJTt -2 指標 1 小時前

A Logical clippers fan right here

球迷：樓上的，是個理性的快船球迷~

[–]Clipperslsalomx 3 指標 1 小時前

I will say he’s a bit better than Wall

快船球迷：不過，我覺得他還是比沃爾要強一點。

[–]KingJTt -2 指標 1 小時前

It’s an observation. He’s bad. And that’s okay

球迷：有道理~威少確實打得不好，但是也還OK啦~

[–]WarriorsCurrymvp2 106 指標 1小時前*

Ty Lue has learned that Westbrook shouldn"t play more than 20ish minutes unless his jumper is on. Westbrook can still provide some very good playmaking and push the pace even when his jumper is off--which is why it"s fine for him to start, but he usually shouldn"t be closing 4th quarters.

勇士球迷：盧教練已經發現，不應該給威少20分鐘的出場時間，除非哪天他投籃準了再說。威少仍然可以很好地完成組織工作，當他投籃不好的時候，他還能推進比賽的節奏，這就是為什么他可以首發，不過他經常在第四節掉鏈子的~

[–]Bullslburner220 7 指標 1小時前

I thought Mann should still start but after seeing it for a few games i think Russ starting is fine. You just absolutely need to have Mann on the floor to close and not Russ. Russ helps alot with the ball handling. Having PG and Kawhi play point all game wasn’t great. Now they need to figure out how to play defense again.

公牛球迷：本來以為曼恩仍然應該首發的，但是看了幾場比賽之后，我覺得威少首發是OK的。不過當球隊需要收比賽的時候，就把曼恩放在場上，而不是威少。威少在球隊控球方面很有幫助，因為讓卡椒整場比賽參與組織是很不好的。現在他們需要想想怎么把防守找回來了~

[–]LakersTallanoGoldDigger 8 指標 1小時前

God it took Vogel half the season to realize the same thing

湖人球迷：天哪~沃格爾可是用了半個賽季才搞清楚怎么用威少啊~

[–]Clipperstasyn123 24 指標 1小時前

I think he realized fairly early but it’s hard to bench a 40 million dollar guy you just acquired

快船球迷：我覺得沃格爾很早就知道該怎么用威少了，但是你總不能把剛剛交易過來的4000萬放在板凳上不用吧~

[–]reddit-acct54321 [分數隱藏] 29 分鐘前

100% there was politics involved. It killed Vogel to play Westbrook, you could tell from the post game interviews lol guy didn’t bench him until he basically knew he was going to be fired

球迷：當時用威少，很明顯有球隊政治層面的因素~當時硬用威少，讓沃格爾生不如死，你們可以從他當時的賽后采訪中看出來，哈哈~這兄弟一直不敢讓威少坐板凳，直到他發現，在那么下去自己就飯碗不保了~

[–]Daaamn_Man 3 指標 1小時前

I guess you can say Russ has learned not to shoot too much and do too much. He would have been missing layups and shots if he was still in the lakers so it’s good to see him be more introspective and adjust

球迷：我猜威少已經明白自己要少投籃，不要什么事都去做了。如果還在湖人隊，他可能會繼續無腦打鐵，很欣慰他有在自省和調整~

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